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aricle
Joined: 08 Jan 2006
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Location: Winter Haven, FL
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 Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: Royal Palm K-Mag Recommendation |
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My first question involves K-Mag. I'm thinking of getting some to supplement my regular Lesco 12-2-14 feeding for a 2-3 year old royal palm in the ground. There's no wood at this point, the tip of the tallest frond is 8-9 ft. from the ground, and the base is 6 inches in diameter at the bulge. It receives full sun. How much K-Mag should I be feeding it in relation to the 12-2-14? Just as much or less?
The other question involves the 12-2-14 itself which I'm using per a recommendation I saw on the old message board here. I imagine I would feed it no more than 3/4 lb. every 2-3 months in its trunkless state. I've actually been fertilizing less because I don't want to overfertilize. Can anyone give me an estimate based on its current size? The label says 1-1.5 lbs. per 100 sq. ft.
Oh, and please tell me if I should be using Suregro 8-4-12 or something besides the 12-2-14 here in Central FL. I want to provide the best for the best.
I really appreciate any advice!
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Jeff, Port Charlotte
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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You probably need more of an expert on this one. I use the Lesco 12-2-14 on some palms, but if you tend to be a bit heavy handed, it can and will burn the palm. For this reason I use Suregro 8-2-12 now for most of my in ground palms. You can use about 2 measured cups of K-Mag on a Roystonea that size. It will not burn. I use Lesco 0-0-20-10 from Lesco AKA K-Mag, though they have it labeled as turf fertilizer.
Jeff
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aricle
Joined: 08 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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What do you think about Lesco 8-2-10? Here's a link...
http://www.lesco.com/NoCompression/Label.aspx?label=080308.pdf
I imagine the small lack of K (compared to your 8-2-12) will be easily made up with the K-Mag. And the 8-2-10 has a much better amount of Mag to start with than the 12-2-14.
I'm just trying to keep it close to home. I don't know when I'll be in Vero Beach next.
Thanks for the earlier advice!
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Jeff, Port Charlotte
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Lesco 8-2-10 should work fine. You're welcome for the previous advice.  Be careful fertilizing now with so little rain. I pick up Suregro in North Fort Myers. A lot of nurseries have it, are using it.
Jeff
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aricle
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Okay! I picked up a bag of 8-2-10-3 from the Lesco in Winter Garden and a bag of K-Mag from the Lesco in Orlando. (Wouldn't it be cool if these things were available at the same place?) I'll keep everyone updated on my 8-2-10-3 results. I think it's going to work great.
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Jeff, Port Charlotte
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| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Aricle, the good thing about a fertilizer with 8% Nitrogen is that it's less likely to burn the roots....etc. Should work well. Roystoneas don't need much fertilizer and they get huge quick once they're in the ground. They like our soil just fine. I have one that I brought back from Miami in 2003 that was in a 1 gallon container from Marcel Moreno that towers over the house now. No trunk yet, but I should see some in a few years. If you get some spotting on the leaflets/trunk, just spray it down with Daconil (Ortho garden disease control) at 1 oz per gallon of water. Young royals sometimes get fungal problems at the juvenile stage so you have to stay on top of them until they're well over 12'.
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aricle
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I wanted to update this thread a year later with the results of my experiment with Lesco 8-2-10-3 + Lesco 0-0-20-10 (K-Mag) on my Roystonea regia. I feel things have gone very very well. I couldn't be happier with the 8-2-10, it's working like a champ. It's a little hard to get (I have to request it each time) but very worth it. The only weird thing that's happened is it's decided to grow towards the south, so it looks a little crooked when looking straight towards my house (you can see this slightly in the 2nd 'after' photo). In fact, I planted three other Royals (elata) in my back yard and they've all grown to the south as well, and some pines in my neighbor's yard behind me have also grown that way... very strange. I'll let my Royals do what they please though, as they make me happy. 
Before (just planted) (March 2006):
After (beautiful shadow on lawn) (March 2007):
Base Before:
Base After:
And my favorite photo (side view) from March 2007:
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Larry - Tarpon Springs
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Looking good Aricle!
Once that palm gets a few rings of wood, it will probably really speed up. This seems to be the case with Royals.
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Joseph Ayo
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Larry - Tarpon Springs wrote: |
Looking good Aricle!
Once that palm gets a few rings of wood, it will probably really speed up. This seems to be the case with Royals. |
I have many royals, some same size as yours, others growing well. OK Tarpon Springs, that plenty warm enough for royals.
I dont know where you guys are coming from saying watch out about over fertilizing just because its dry, etc. For the most part, if you arent burning the grass, you are OK. The grass will burn to death and the palm is still OK. In the picture the grass is plenty green. Keep the grass looking like that and you wont have to worry about effect of drought and sprinkler. Where ever there is a sprinkler and green grass, there is no drought for that palm.
Not only that lets put it into perspective. 2006 went out 10 inches of rain above average, however since Jan 1st we are 3 inches of rain behind. This is also typical of spring, some spring droughts pay back with summer floods, but so far this is more of an agricultural drought then it is a water supply drought. Also people are worried because of la nina typically means extra dry springs and not always a dry summer. It seems we are running thru the El Nino/La Nina cycle at a faster pace then typical and some indications are the La Nina will end in middle summer. |
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Ray in Brandon
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How's it look now? |
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zeeth
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I'm curious about this too, it must be trunking by now |
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Ray in Brandon
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Being in WinterHaven, chances are this Royals done. |
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rpebinger
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I concur with Ray. There were four Royals along US27 about 1.5 - 2 miles north of where aricle is at. Each had about 5 feet of clear trunk and only one pushed any new spears as of today. Unless those Royals had a stellar micro climate - they are most liley toast.
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